Posts by Separation of Powers

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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@Sir82

Good for the Spanish!!! They always seemed to be left out like the last kid to get picked for the kickball team.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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As for content, zone visits are typically a hype session for the particular country that they are referencing. In this instance, I believe its only the English speaking congregations of the US and its territories. That would mean that it will probably simply speak of the PROGRESS that the area has experienced similar to the Yearbook highlights of a certain land. Because it deals mainly with the preaching work, it may address changes in dealing with the inactive, irregular or manner in which the preaching work is effected. I agree with many here that there will DEFINITELY be some comment about contributions and "blessings" but do not expect any HUGE doctrinal changes......

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New JW assembly/meeting that has prerecorded message? Lasts half a day

by HillCountry in

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sorry about the confused nature of the topic but my mom (who still goes to the kh meetings) said that there will be an "assembly" on sunday where there will be a prerecorded message or talk of some sort and that it will only be half a day and won't need to bring lunch.

anyone else have heard of these or gone to one?.

i know they are changing a lot of things.

Separation of Powers

Yep, its the Zone visit for the US English....or is it the Regional visit? Anyway, live action on Saturday November 8 at 3:00pm eastern...Recorded and edited version on Sunday November 9 and because it is a recording, apparently depends on preference of elders as to the time....

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Name the GOOD things and NICE things about Jehovah's Witnesses

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so in the interests of balance....(as it has rightly been pointed out that i am getting more bitter toward the org), can we think of any positive or nice things about jehovah's witnesses?.

just throwing this topic out there....... .

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Separation of Powers

Personally, I liked the chicken sandwiches, the danishes, and the pudding....didn't care much for the hoagies or the fruit bags...the Shasta cola which morphed to Sunnyside or Cragmont..never measured up to the real "soda" The Circuit Assemblies used to have real breakfast made by real people...that was nice too. Other than that.....can't think of much. Have always been in wierd congregations filled with self-important climbers and socially inept people too worried about what others thought.

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Service meeting week of November 3rd! How to indoctrinate children

by stuckinarut2 in

oh yep...here we go..... this weeks service meeting has a part designed to show how children should be indoctrinated and manipulated into going "out in service".

the part first asks for the disturbingly corny cartoon clip to be played on the big screen at the halls: "lets go out in service!".

(if you haven't watched it yet, please go to jw.org and watch it....you simply won't beleive it until you see it!).

Separation of Powers

How do you indoctrinate a good JW kid? The article should have stated what worked for people of my generation.....

A belt....

A hot wheel track...

A switch....

Guilt....

Comparison.....

Fear....

Isolation....

and my personal favorite..."Get out of MY house!"

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comment from an uber dub regarding the $13.5 sex abuse case will just blow you away.

by joe134cd in

i was talking to an uber dub friend last night who lives in the san diego area.

he knew nothing of the $13.5 million dollar law suit.

when i tried to tell him that this is a systemic problem, and that this could perhaps be the tip of the ice burgh.

Separation of Powers

I think Duran Duran said it best in their song....

"O, O, Oblivious...."

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Um, It's November...Where is that meat in due season?

by CaptainSchmideo in

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tv.jw.org is still on october programming.

what happened, did jehovah forget to turn in the script?.

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Separation of Powers

Ummm, daylight savings?

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PROOF that the Watchtower is the TRUTH...Sunday's WT fallacy

by Separation of Powers in

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i thought the undenable proof was pretty evident in the watchtower study this past weekend.

no war, preaching work, disfellowshipping....yeah, that's pretty convincing evidence.. .

no war?

Separation of Powers

I thought the UNDENABLE proof was pretty evident in the Watchtower study this past weekend. No war, preaching work, disfellowshipping....yeah, that's pretty convincing evidence.

No war? Research a little about JF Rutherford before you talk about true neutrality. Then research every other religious organization or secular grou p that condemn war BEFORE you use that line of reasoning. Pacifism is not unique to JWs. Oh, yes, they may be bigger than other religions, but definitely NOT the only one that condemns war.

Preaching work? When you indoctrinate people to believe that works are more important than anything else and you tell them that among these works is the ALL IMPORTANT preaching work then, of course, your group is going to preach. When your preaching, however, becomes nothing more than handing out literature and your printing presses continually produce "new and improved" light, then your preaching is tantamount to door-to-door salesmanship. When the majority of your billion plus hours are spent in fruitless endeavours, then it is far from preaching with a purpose and everyone knows, preaching without a purpose is "striking the air."

Disfellowshipping? When you can state with a straight face that an indication of being the true religion is because you excommunicate tens of thousands of members annually, and address judicially tens if not hundreds of thousands more, I think it would be best to ask why so many witnesses cross the lines of morality in the first place. When fear of disfellowshipping is the chief deterrent than maybe more time should be spent on instilling virtue over works.

Sorry, but you fall short with this article on SOOO many levels.

SOP

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Help me keep this site active

by Old Goat in

the watch tower history blog is the best out there.

the owners are considering shutting it down for lack of blog visits.

maybe a visit and a comment would help keep it alive.. http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

Separation of Powers

I sense a little whining and moaning formt he person who wrote this.... ###

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Even if the WTS wins its appeals, it loses

by sir82 in

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the thought occurs to me that even if the wts wins its appeals, it loses.. suppose that conti, lopez, the other 8 cases tied to campos, and even dozens more cases to come are overturned on appeal.. (1) the wts will have built a reputation of secrecy & mishandling.

a lone crackpot or 2 might file a case against a big corporation in hopes of getting something out of a settlement, but if there are dozens & dozens of litigants, most of whom prefer to go to court to air the "dirty laundry" instead of seeking a settlement, what does that say?.

(2) it's not exactly an appealing message for the wts to say "ha ha!

Separation of Powers

There is a law of averages. The more that fight against the positions of the WT regarding their CA policies, the more chance that someone will win and win BIG. Conti's case is taking longer than I expected. However, with regard to the legalities involved...THAT is a good thing. If she wins, the floodgates will open and the damage will be insufferable...